So... "conservatives" demonize the word "liberal," while anybody who still self-applies it is a snot? 1. I know MetaFilter is littered with die-hard liberals, but it's really surprising sometimes to see just how far off the reservation y'all have wandered. And yes, there are people I really don’t care for. Sorry folks, only the die hard Bush haters would stick up for trashing the president at a funeral. It is a really good expression of how to handle the hate and hopefully bring relief to the hurt that seems to be increasing daily. Hatred and hate can often be used interchangeably as nouns, they are synonyms. I cringe at the thought that I might actually hate someone and subscribe to Madeleine L’Engle’s thoughts that “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.”. Don't take hate personally, because at the end of the day -- it just isn't. Synonym Discussion of hate. What word would you use to encompass those political beliefs? Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” I just never thought of strong aversion as being hate. I would say that it wasn't the place because it's a funeral and it's something that shouldn't really be politicised, unless it was something the deceased expressed beforehand that doing so would be ok by him/her. 2. In 1997, Will Smith introduced a new word into the American lexicon: "hater." However with some I am uncertain if complete forgiveness is possible. See more. Yes, cribcage. Jimmy Carter & Reverend Lowery: NO CLASS. It was the perfect time and place--and way--to celebrate an activist's life. "As the barbs flew, Bush seemed to take the heat in stride, smiling at times, giving Lowery a standing ovation and even pulling the civil rights leader in for a bear hug. This thread is brought to you by Standard Partisan Rhetoric 'R Us. Give examples too. Definitions of hate on-line are: to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest; feel antipathy towards. ”We may not know what each day has in store for us. Today. The Bush administration and the Republican party for the last 6 years have almost done nothing but politicize funerals and death. In this Administration it's funny how the "time and the place for those things" is never "now.". We can say that together, too. I think they’re great minded, but choose to sell … “ « Older Valentines for Perfect Strangers   |   That's Seargant Pug to You, Dammit Newer », This thread has been archived and is closed to new comments. Thanks ericb, I had no idea that was the source. All posts copyright their original authors. Everything is political. Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” – Israelmore Ayivor I never thought of it that way. This thread is about the GOP reaction to her funeral (gee, i wonder if they're using the funeral for political purposes as well just maybe???) When you call MLK a "liberal," you're just trying to align him with your political team, and I think that's creepy. It is a sign of a guilty conscience for Bushites to rail at Jimmy Carter for mentioning this at the recent memorial; the reaction is that of Claudius to Hamlet's play. If hate can be taught, so can love. ... Reading The Pictures: Laura's "Sit Down Strike" For Coretta King. Don’t add more reasons for them to be upset by ... to the blatant hatred that is going on. Pot. Outstanding eulogy by Red. “ Love me or hate me. To honor an activist? The "not right time or place" is just a distractor that was evidently used to derail attention from what was said and by who during the cerimony. Kind of annoying, IMO. You could try and find out why you differ and address that difference through dialogue. There are those who caused me great grief and lots of pain for who forgiveness is not 100%. The truth hurts. But, you know, keep working the refs or whatever. They hated him and they hated Martin Luther King. Sometimes you could feel that they care more about you and the things you do than you care about yourself, and they care about what other people think of you more than you actually do. “People who hate you because of a mere jealousy over your success hurt themselves in disguise. Their death says to us that we must work passionately and unrelentingly for the realization of the American dream. Hate elevates the hater above the hated. 7. 8. My only problem with Rev. 2. 20 synonyms of hate from the Merriam-Webster Thesaurus, plus 62 related words, definitions, and antonyms. I'd say that it was in oblique recognition that these ceremonies are intrinsically, Rephrasing what I said earlier.... a bland, politically-correct funeral for Coretta Scott King would have been a. To think that MeFi somehow is part of the Democratic machine is retarded. I wish them no harm or difficulty, but frankly don’t care to know anything about them today. There was I thinking they kept winning because they rig elections, lie through their teeth, do their best to keep the electorate in fear and ignorance, get all the money because they're in cahoots with Corporate America at the expense of the averae citizen, are institutionally corrupt and think nothing - absolutely nothing - of smearing all those who disagree with them through a carefully created network of lying, whining, patronising bastiches like O'Reilly, etc who carefully spin republican talking points whilst claiming to be independent journalists who tell it like it is, are "fair and balanced" and so forth. To feel strong dislike for or hostility toward: rivals who hate each other. Share this quote: Like Quote. Fuck that, you get a yellow flag for wilfull misrepresentation of the underlying "issue," and that's a cheap tactic, ass. Famous Quotes about Hate. Hate Hurts the Hater | Good Morning Gratitude. Not 100% forgiveness, but close. Or, to quote Frederick Douglas: "Agitate, agitate, agitate.". Sounds like they sent Coretta up the way she would have wanted? Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people. I've probably read 80-90% of comments you've ever made on this site, longbaugh. God ... showing hater and hated as equals, really helps."..." Otherwise, with ordinary people there’s an adage that goes, someone most often hates you for one of three reasons. in my link above, there's a quote by Ms. King, justgary---and there have been many quotes and links posted already about her life. Go Quakers! Although hating is a very easy thing to do and some people do let their hurt cause them to hate, there are some, very many in fact, who say that they hate when they really hurt. Ya'll fuckin' serious, or can ya'll just drop the affected southern vernacular and step out of character now? If I were King's family, I would have asked him, Republicans don't know how to have a funeral. Well, yes orthogonality, I think your cardboard cutout comments were right on, and they also speak to a much larger issue that I think is driving a lot of right wing "rhetoric". Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. If you self-identify as a liberal and you are telling JekPorkins to shut up then I think you need to think long and hard about what liberal means. This and all discussions like it minimize their importance. Pinko? more. Really, many people have abandoned the word in favor of the less demonized "progressive." 1. It’s a healthy sort of turning a blind eye and putting those old pains up high on a shelf and forgetting about those caused them. To see what your friends thought of this quote, please sign up! – Coretta Scott King. and the continuing disdain shown afflicted African-Americans even today, as in the Gulf. You asinine political correctness and obtuseness is patently offensive. 98. Non-asshole? As always, if you ever want to know what the Republicans are guilty of just listen at what they are accusing others of doing. - Coretta Scott King. “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.” – Madeleine L’Engle. Learn more. Learn more details and find out ways to participate. ‘Haters, that's what they are, just haters!’ ‘A story of how hate destroys the hater.’ ‘Haters will hate these tracks, for essentially the same reasons.’ ‘More now on the suspect, an alleged killer, but pretty clearly a proven hater.’ ‘Sounds like a bunch of jealous haters to me’ ‘He actually called me a hater… The unhappiest people in this world, Hate is never good, but it’s understandably felt by some toward people such as child abusers, perpetrators of violent crimes, terrorists and some who are just plain evil. You get a time-out for lack of reading comprehension. Unless you are in favor of rule by king or other dictator you are a Liberal. v.intr. Basically, the argument the right gives seems to boil down to "well you shouldn't have brought up civil rights abuses at the funeral of a civil rights leader.". MLK paid the ultimate price for doing so. Hate follows success like a shadow – always looking to cast some shade. What you shouldn't do is throw cheap insults and deliberately misread the oppositions words so that you can act like you are channeling the holy spirit of liberty and goodliness. As verbs the difference between hurt and hate is that hurt is to be painful while hate is to dislike intensely or greatly. Just for the record, anyone speaking at my funeral is free -- nay. Hate is too great a burden to bear. We are taught to hate the enemy — meaning anyone different than us — which leaves little room for vulnerability and an exploration of hate through empathic discourse and understanding. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Any minute could truly be our goodbye. I am no fan of the Bush movement, and I can see how one would argue it was the place, but it's not something I would probably have done. Thinking about hating someone is sobering. “I don’t think haters are small-minded; it’s more tragic than that. One possible reading might be that someone who is liberal would allow someone else to have an alternate viewpoint or ideology and respect that. (Speak) They have something to say to every Negro (Yeah) who has passively accepted the evil system of segregation and who has stood on the sidelines in a mighty struggle for justice. Oh for fuck's sake you guys. Never heard that one before. MLK and Coretta were all about telling the truth to power. At the JFK service someone should have reminded the audience and America that screwing Maryln Monroe in adultery was not a good thing to have done. To feel strong dislike for or hostility toward: rivals who hate each other. Fine. And please, stop with the victimhood over all the insults. We could be gone tomorrow. We're on a mission of turning inspiring quotes into beautiful wallpapers. Republicans are evil. Well sonofsamiam, since you dismissed my comment with virtually zero thought I hardly think you are the most analytical of people so we'll just chalk that up to a difference of opinion whilst it's still allowed, mkay? Right now. I ended by telling her my philosophy is that there are lots of things that happen to us in this life that we have no control over. No Hate Lyrics: Tell me why they all hatin on me / Cause it's God Over Money and my whole team / I'm banged out like Yeshua is my OG / And I don't really know why they be low key / Logo on my Didn't the Democrats learn their lesson from the Wellstone funeral? are those who care the most about what other people think. I've been wondering about that, Malor. I’ve developed a different meaning for “hate” – an acronym of the mindset you need to counter this destructive emotional assault on your mind and body. Such people are now blanks where a relationship of some sort has been erased due to the pain they caused me. The fuss seems to be all from people who can't relate to her in the first place. So, take a deep breath and accept it. No. Join 6,466 readers in helping fund MetaFilter. Neither of yesterday's labels are accurate today. “People who hate you because of a mere jealousy over your success hurt themselves in disguise. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated." And perhaps you should also like to think of Caesar without ever having to consider the existence of, "I'm glad republicans don't call MLK a liberal.". The best and complete answer wins 10 points. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King. ing, hates v.tr. amberglow, what do you think of Bill setting Hillary up for an ovation? Hate can give you that sexual flush and adrenalin rush that many crave. But bravo, Jek, you've proven yourself an excellent troll. I don't think Bush took the criticism too well. It can be as addictive as alcohol or drugs. Lowery's remarks was his claim that "we know now" that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It’s only human to like some people more than others, to respect some more than other folks, to not be comfortable with some people and quite at home with others. I think Coretta would have been very, very pleased. “Why do haters hate?“ The truth is that there will always be some people who don’t like what you do, no matter what you do. In his hit, Gettin' Jiggy wit It, he rapped that he had "no love for the haters," because they were, implicitly, motivated by envy.In 2001, the R&B group 3LW, in their song Playas Gon' Play, provided more context for understanding haters by telling us "playas gon' play [and] haters gon' hate." Haters are people who (still) care, but they do so far too much. 10. Either way, I’m on your mind.” Anonymous. 9. More ideas: — Too many results? They hate themselves. Inappropirate? Read more quotes from Madeleine L'Engle. This is because you carry an image of who they wish they had become. I am grown up enough to no longer beat myself up about simply not caring for some people. It's not an ad hom when your comments are analyzed and it's concluded that you're not altogether very bright. But, of course, the noble tradition of radicalism in this country now invites as much hate as the once-noble tradition of liberalism. Hate is too great a burden to bear. How to use hate in a sentence. 2. They have something to say to a federal government that has compromised with the undemocratic practices of southern Dixiecrats (Yeah) and the blatant hypocrisy of right-wing northern Republicans. If you're one of those hurt by it, maybe you ought to re-examine what it is YOU stand for. MLK was not evil. They either see you as a threat. Why was it not the time or the place? The psychology of a hater is to impose their self-hate on others. Hate masks personal insecurities. They say to each of us, black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution. They say to us that we must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced the murderers. Postroad, there's a difference between insulting a dead person's memory by casting aspersions on his character at the funeral and honoring a hero by continuing her work even at her funeral. There is no one I can think of who I lack the intention of forgiveness for in my heart. If you don't have any real emotions inside, faking outrage is alright, I guess. Like drugs and alcohol, it can lead to seeking more and more violent forms of it. Dr King, on his wishes for his own eulogy, from his sermon: I'm amazed so many of y'all turned out to express approval for what occurred at that funeral. Should we even wonder why so many in the GOP were made uncomfortable by the funeral? It’s a form of healthy self-care to at least be able to recognize who’s good for me and who isn’t. Another word for hate. Don't be an ass. Hate is an obsession. On preview-- I was about to post the same picture kirkaracha did. But we do have this moment. Hate definition, to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry. Haters overcompensate this aspect — the deeper they loved, the stronger they hate. It was about her strength of character and moral bearing. Hatred is bitter-sweet as it inflates the ego and makes you feel very superior and self-righteous against the thing or one that is hated, only breeding further pain. If it was the latter, he's 5 years too late. But you were responding in a really asshole way to what Relay said. I hadn't read the quote above when I posted mine. I don't believe that JekPorkins' primary concern is MLK's legacy. Using what was said at a funeral to score political points is even worse than saying something at an activist's funeral, in case you didn't realize, politically speaking. This website exists to break down the barriers between people, to extend a weblog beyond just one person, and to foster discussion among its members. Black. On review, gesamtkunstwerk said pretty much the same thing. ing , hates v. tr. Before I started this website I had a conversation with a friend of mine who is a very successful blogger and who has more haters than I have hair on my head. Friends Who Liked This Quote. I have fantasies about watching that man have a heart attack. It's interesting that there are several references to Shakespeare in the thread already. Start your week with a motivational kick. This info is very valuable. Career law enforcement professionals on the payroll of the U S governement subjected the King family--including Ms. Coretta--to wiretapping and electronic surveillance throughout Dr. King's career. 3. Jek, I'm not saying that the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative" haven't changed. Shit, that's been the right's stock in trade since 9/11. MetaFilter is a weblog that anyone can contribute a link or a comment to. I wish Bush had sent Cheney. The posters at MeFi are Democratic Party operatives, therefore it is fair to compare their influence with that of Karl Rove and the GOP. Check out that video if you haven't seen it. I have come to the understanding that most who hurt others have been hurt themselves, often as children, and end up passing along their pain. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated. A typical weblog is one person posting their thoughts on the unique things they find on the web. ..."but it does show that George W. Bush is appealing as a leader to those Americans who harbor greater anti-black prejudice." Otherwise, with ordinary people there’s an adage that goes, someone most often hates you for one of three reasons. This is just Wellstone redux. "Truth to power"? ... resolved to try his hand once more by stirring up fresh quarrels and disturbances. “Hate hurts the hater more'n the hated.” ― Madeline L'Engle tags: hate. It’s easier said than done though, the whole “accepting” your haters thing. To feel dislike or distaste for: hates washing dishes; hates to get up early. This is because you carry an image of who they wish they had become. To be disinclined (to do something) out of politeness or a need to apologize: I hate to interrupt, but can I ask you a quick question? Find more ways to say hate, along with related words, antonyms and example phrases at Thesaurus.com, the world's most trusted free thesaurus. Do you deliberately look to start fights or what? So, you're saying that Carter's statement, "we only have to recall the colour of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi who are most devastated by Katrina to know that there are not yet equal opportunities for all Americans," was inappropriate? The Gala approaches! I readily admit there are those who hurt me I feel completely indifferent about. Coretta Scott King The only type of person who would say, when asked if MLK is a liberal, "Well, I would like to think MLK is above partisan labeling; I would call him a great human being," is the type who is trying to exploit MLK. As a adjective hurt is wounded, physically injured. If you want to label the founding fathers as liberal according to how it is defined today remember that LBJ (the president when MLK was being bugged) was a democrat. I'm beginning to suspect that if JekPorkins were any more deliberately obtuse s/he'd be ripped straight from the pages of Euclid's. If you support non-violence and peace like MLK then you shouldn't feel the need to heap abuse on other people of differing viewpoints, you should talk calmly and respectfully. I first became aware of it while reading reviews of Good Night and Good Luck. However there are times some people might prefer one form over another, and there are fixed expressions which use one form in preference to another. Next to meeting somebody who admires someone we admire, we all like to meet somebody who hates someone we hate. As for class, Carter and Lowery graduated decades ago, so of course they don't have any class. Elie Wiesel wrote, “the opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference”. Hate is never good, but it’s understandably felt by some toward people such as child abusers, perpetrators of violent crimes, terrorists and some who are just plain evil. Besides tha,t most of the preceding comments are a load of horseshit. I hope my funeral warants being politicized. Was that a moment of apolitical reverence for the Kings and their legacy or not? Don't miss out on our next weekly batch. Would you prefer to use that instead? This message of hatred is used to protect themselves from further hurt but it does not heal the hurt that has already been done to them. pyramid termite is correct. Milquetoast sermons? The new advanced search interface organizes the results more sensibly. "We're angry at [the fact that Bush attended the funeral]." Hate definition is - intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury. C. Joybell C. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Voicing Hate When We Really Hurt. Don't look at hate as a reflection of yourself and your work, but don't use it as a crutch either. So if I dislike someone a lot, I in fact hate them. And stuff like this: Lowery Responds To Right-Wing’s ‘Politicization’ Criticisms. Isn't it funny how the Republicans have no problem at all stepping all over her funeral by erupting in outrage to eulogies given by her dear friends? So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person. Always co-opt or use the symbol for all it’s worth. To establish a relationship with Black America? A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. Oh yea, you're the problem. They hate anyone who gives hope to the people they and their corporate godfathers use as human doormats. Sorry if you don't like that. Why not politicize funerals – especially those of political figures? It injures the hater more than it injures the hated. Is that really the worst thing you can say about JFK? I wonder how much Dexter can profit by licensing that quote (before it goes out of copyright anyway). Effigy2000: good job, being persuaded to change your mind. 1. Chasfile, you certainly have a lot to say for a post that you deem "terrible". Should anyone be surprised that the rare time Bush appears in front of an audience that is not carefully screened there is some pent up hostility? I am grateful to know the difference! cribcage, fuck off. Or they want to be you. MLK and Coretta have meant a whole lot more to this country than what petty bullshit happened at the funeral. Martin Luther King, Jr. himself used the occasion of the Sixteenth Street Babtist Church funeral for 3 of the 4 girls killed to speak about the Dixiecrats and others who would deny equality. What on earth do you call. – Robert Elliott Gonzales Truth to power. I would argue that King was a radical, albeit on the liberal side of the spectrum. I'm not even sure you know what partisanship is, except that it has yucky connotations. The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a … Porkins, you're living in a dream world if you think MLK was somehow nonpartisan. Old tactic. It's like somebody cranked up both the republican and the democrat cliche generators and turned them up to 11. At this point I really don’t think I hate anyone and readily admit I have at times confused hurt with hate. February 8, 2006 3:53 PM Subscribe Yes, justgary, you're right. Recommend to friends. 3. Is this the same President Bush who says his relationship with the NAACP is, Well, why the fcuk was Bush there? This was an unparallelled opportunity for Bush to be forced into a situation where he didn't have a pre-selected. Hate has a way of bringing out the worst in people. Everyone else knows and accepts that MLK was a lib. It takes way more effort to shell out hate then it does to allow love to flow freely in our lives. Take a more constructive approach with the list of wise and insightful quotes on hate below. “Friends ask you questions; enemies question you.” Criss Jami. Let's all say it together. Here's what I find amazing about views like cribcage's and other people trying to label all these eulogies a "liberal screw up": sorry about that bad typing ... should read: Jek, you know what Relay was saying. Hatred is an intense repulsion that creates a mirror effect in that it attracts the person back to the thing hated in order to be repulsed by it over and over. Emotional scars stand in the way. 6. Hate is a strong word. Wow. Huh? This time. Who's using her life and death to make points now? “People ask you for criticism, but they only want praise.“ W. Somerset Maugham. hater definition: 1. a person who says or writes unpleasant things about someone or criticizes their achievements…. Whether used as a means to cover up feelings of fear or pain, hatred can quickly become all-consuming. Why are you here? 99. “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.“ Madeleine L’Engle. Kettle. Non-conservative? 8. Here we go with the adultery again. 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